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		<title>Google Nails Down Social Search</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 19:38:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Google&#8217;s Social Search is doing the walk, all the rest are just doing the talk. As soon as I activated the Social Search experiment, my next search yielded a social result. No setting up, showing how I am connected to &#8230; <a href="http://alteregozi.com/2009/10/27/google-nails-down-social-search/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a><img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=alteregozi.com&#038;blog=5149366&#038;post=595&#038;subd=alteregozi&#038;ref=&#038;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong><a href="http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2009/10/introducing-google-social-search-i.html" target="_blank">Google&#8217;s Social Search</a></strong><strong> is doing the walk, all the rest are just doing the talk.</strong> As soon as I activated the <a href="http://www.google.com/experimental/index.html" target="_blank">Social Search experiment</a>, my next search yielded a social result. No setting up, showing how I am connected to that result (including friends of friends), showing as part of the standard web results&#8230;</p>
<p><a href="http://alteregozi.files.wordpress.com/2009/10/google-social-search.png"><img class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-596" title="google-social-search" src="http://alteregozi.files.wordpress.com/2009/10/google-social-search.png?w=500&h=185" alt="google-social-search" width="500" height="185" /></a>Contrast this with Microsoft&#8217;s <a href="http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/10/21/microsoft-to-announce-bing-deals-with-facebook-and-twitter/" target="_blank">poor attempt at &#8220;social search&#8221;</a> by indexing tweets and status messages and showing them regardless of the actual searcher (<a href="http://www.bing.com/search?q=twitter+kara+swisher" target="_blank">example search</a>, you&#8217;ve got to be on &#8220;United States&#8221; locale on bing to see it).</p>
<p>Then also contrast it with Facebook&#8217;s announcement back in August of its implementation of <a href="http://blog.facebook.com/blog.php?post=115469877130" target="_blank">searching within friends&#8217; posts</a> - a less grandiose announcement that yet delivered far more social experience than Bing&#8217;s. Nevertheless, it&#8217;s a very limited experience and far from being a true information source for any serious search need.</p>
<p>So how does Google overcome <a href="http://alteregozi.com/2008/11/22/bootstraping-social-search/" target="_self">the main obstacle</a> &#8211; <strong>collecting your connections?</strong></p>
<p>Google relies on its own sources and on open sources it can obtain by <a href="http://code.google.com/apis/socialgraph/" target="_blank">crawling the social graph</a>. That is the true reason why Facebook is <a href="http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/10/26/google-social-search-launches-twitter-friendfeed-but-not-facebook-highlighted/" target="_blank">not part of Google&#8217;s graph</a> (no XFN/FOAF marking on Facebook&#8217;s public pages). Google may be counting on Facebook&#8217;s inevitable <a href="http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/search_facebook.php" target="_blank">opening up</a>, and with Gmail&#8217;s <a href="http://news.cnet.com/8301-30684_3-10311150-265.html" target="_blank">rising popularity</a> it becomes a reasonable alternative even for Facebook users like me.</p>
<p>Sadly, all this great news gave zero credit to Delver, where <a href="http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/delver_launches_social_search.php" target="_blank">it all happened first</a>&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Tantek Çelik&#8217;s True Identity Revealed!</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jan 2009 09:37:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This morning I came across a nice little people search demo by Martin Atkins. It&#8217;s mainly a wrapper over Social Graph API, but helps illustrate the public social graph. Now, Tantek Çelik is one of the main advocates for Microformats, which in &#8230; <a href="http://alteregozi.com/2009/01/11/tantek-celiks-true-identity-revealed/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a><img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=alteregozi.com&#038;blog=5149366&#038;post=224&#038;subd=alteregozi&#038;ref=&#038;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This morning I came across a nice little <a href="http://martin.atkins.me.uk/peoplesearch/" target="_blank">people search</a> demo by <a href="http://www.apparently.me.uk/" target="_blank">Martin Atkins</a>. It&#8217;s mainly a wrapper over <a href="http://code.google.com/apis/socialgraph" target="_blank">Social Graph API</a>, but helps illustrate the public social graph. Now, <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tantek_%C3%87elik" target="_blank">Tantek Çelik</a> is one of the main advocates for <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microformats" target="_blank">Microformats</a>, which in turn generate a lot of the XFN data that feeds SGAPI. So it was quite a surprise to <a href="http://martin.atkins.me.uk/peoplesearch/#Tantek%20%C7elik" target="_blank">feed his name</a> and see this: </p>
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<p>The horror! the horror!!</p>
<p>What happened here? a quick check on SGAPI led to some strange findings. Turns out that Robert Scoble&#8217;s old blog at scoble.weblogs.com is <a href="http://socialgraph-resources.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/samples/findyours.html?q=scoble.weblogs.com%0D%0A" target="_blank">listed</a> as strongly conncted to Tantek&#8217;s blog identity. I then went on to check out that blog &#8211; no XFN or FOAF to Tantek there. So where did that come from?</p>
<p>A more elaborate dive into SGAPI&#8217;s <a href="http://socialgraph.apis.google.com/lookup?q=tantek.com%2Flog&amp;edi=1&amp;pretty=1&amp;callback=" target="_blank">more detailed output</a> showed that Scoble was listed as referencing Tantek with both XFN attributes of &#8220;<strong>me</strong>&#8221; and &#8220;<strong>met</strong>&#8220;. In plain English, this means that Robert Scoble said &#8220;I <strong>am</strong> Tantek Çelik, plus I <strong>also met</strong> him in person!&#8221;. So what could cause this, except for some serious case of schizophrenia?</p>
<p>My humble guess is that Scoble, some time ago, listed Tantek as a &#8220;met&#8221; contact on his old blog, but with a magnificient little typo, left out the &#8216;t&#8217;.  He then discovered the mistake and fixed it. But the Googlebot caught both cases, and added them both as relations. Now why would they do that? shouldn&#8217;t new data replace old data? well, that&#8217;s what other users of SGAPI are asking, see the <a href="http://groups.google.com/group/social-graph-api/browse_thread/thread/73f1f04e58f3e992#" target="_blank">discussion over at the group</a>. Turns out the SGAPI data is not yet as timely as the main index, and Brad Fitzpatrick promises this will improve soon enough.</p>
<p>Considering the upcoming <a href="http://alteregozi.com/2009/01/02/new-years-resolution-social-diet/" target="_self">social diet</a>, it better will&#8230;</p>
<p><strong>Update:</strong> <a href="http://whadar.blogspot.com/" target="_blank">Hadar</a> pointed out another example, where Chris Messina gets identified with TechCrunch UK&#8230; it&#8217;s indeed <a href="http://socialgraph.apis.google.com/lookup?q=http://uk.techcrunch.com/&amp;edo=1&amp;pretty=1&amp;callback=" target="_blank">reflected</a> in SGAPI, and I tracked this down to erroneous XFN tagging in an <a href="http://uk.techcrunch.com/2006/12/05/new-microformat-icons/" target="_blank">obscure 2006 TCUK post</a>. Indeed demonstrates a weakness of the unmoderated, inherently decentralized XFN-based graph building. Still, for now it&#8217;s the only open standard we have, until some higher, post-processing open layer will emerge.</p>
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